Monday, August 22, 2011

Zeitgeist The Movie 2007

This one was the most depressing of the three. The main points of this documentary were 1. Christianity at its counterparts are founded on astrological concepts it stole from other cultures and has now become vastly perverse and misunderstood, and 2. September 11th was not caused by terrorists but was in fact orchestrated by our government to further economic "progress" and funding for itself through the engagement of various wars.

1. I don't like the tone the narrator uses. He sounds sceptical in a sarcastic way and it comes off sounding condescending. That issue aside, it is interesting to see the similarities Judaism/ Christianity had to other religions before their time. I believe the stories in the Bible are meant to illustrate lessons more than record historical/ scientific facts -at least in general. I also believe now that the connection to the zodiac/astrological system makes sense and I strongly believe it may have been an underlying truth throughout the Bible.

The issues/ faults in the documentary have to be acknowledged as well though. Osiris -an Egyptian god referenced- did not float down the Nile in a basket and get resurrected like Jesus. He was a mythological ruler of Egypt -born from the Sky and Earth gods who married his sister Isis and got murdered by his jealous brother Seth. He was then put in a Coffin and sent down the Nile only to be found later by his brother again and chopped up into little pieces. He was then put back together and brought back to life for one day after Isis an her sister turned themselves into hawks and flew over his corpse for a long time. Then he and Isis conceived the head-hawked god Horrus who then joined his father Osiris in the underworld the next day. Not exactly how things went down with Moses and Jesus.

The documentary over-generalized and skimmed over facts to make it seem like everything was just copied from various mythologies and pasted in the Bible. The main difference between Christianity and those mythologies is that the myths are clearly narratives involving gods and other mystical beings meant to illustrate various societal values and origin stories through tales. The Bible on the other hand, was written over hundreds of years by various people. Although it was not a historical document, it did speak to various historical events that did in fact occur in reality (such as Hebrews being enslaved in Egypt). The Bible also lists rules and guidelines for its followers to practice far more explicitly than those other religions.

So what about Jesus -the central figure of Christianity -did he in fact exist? At this point, honestly, it's kind of irrelevant. Say for example, they did make him up. Everything he did was just a fantasy story people bought into. Now what? The fact is you can't prove or disprove Jesus existed -it's irrelevant. Whether he roamed the earth 2000 years ago doesn't matter as much as whether or not he is alive today. Jesus is alive today.

Some people may not know who Gandhi or Oprah are, but you ask anyone in any country who Jesus is and odds are they will have heard of him. For me, it's more about what a religion does or is doing for our present society than how it was founded or how it was used/ misused centuries before. Take Mormonism for example: It managed to make polygamy a cool thing for a while, I don't know how it was started exactly -although it was explained to me once, but I do know what the religion is today. I have family members that are Mormon -it's the same as any other Christian denomination and no one who is Mormon supports polygamy now.

Jesus, Christianity, Islam, Judaism... they have brought some people serenity, peace, a sense of purpose, meaning, a connection to something greater than themselves, an urge to help and care for other people, spiritual and emotional strength, a sense of community, upliftment, and much more. There are those who abuse/ misuse these religions or suffer by them, but ultimately the religions exist and it's up to individuals to interpret and act on religion the way they see fit.

2. Holy Crap the government is out to kill us. I wasn't surprised so much as disheartened. It figures. You place a bunch of wealthy people in powerful positions who elect more of their kind to do whatever it takes to maintain their level of power and wealth. But I just had a naive faith that no one was capable of something like 9/11 to their own country. I hate being wrong. I also hate George Bush. Initially I was just annoyed by his ignorance, but now that I see it was just an act to help him get away with things without looking competent and responsible for them -I hate him.

Why does the world have to be such a messed up place? We really need a new system.

7 comments:

  1. First and foremost, I'm happy you seem to have some very involved knowledge of Christianity. Sounds to me like you read Case for Christ or a book of that sort.

    Taking all things together, Judeo-Christianity is the most credible and backed up religion of all.

    I don't get how people find similarities in Christianity to other religions and then dismiss Christianity with that reasoning. All religions have things in common --- or else they would not be called a religion.

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  2. As for if it's important whether or not Christ lived --- it's extremely important. That's the basis of becoming a Christian. Bible says that in order to be a Christian, one most believe that he existed and did what He said he did (read 1 Corinthians 15). If Christ didn't come to earth, die, and rise again --- Christianity doesn't exist. The religion wouldn't make sense and lose it's very core. This is why atheists try to badly to disprove that he walked to earth because it would literally kill Christianity if they can prove it.

    But as you said --- nobody will ever prove that it didn't happen.

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  3. Now as for this gov't blowing itself up at 9/11...

    Some questions to consider: Why would Bush put all that effort into supposedly making himself look good by blowing up his own people, even though he knows he can stay in power at most 8 years? If he was a king, maybe this would hold some logic but what was he hoping to achieve?

    Why do we need a new system when it's the best system in the history of mankind? We don't allow anybody to get too powerful in USA. It's been our saving grace since 1776.

    What system is better? Socialism/communism, which has led to more deaths in the past 100 years than anything else?

    Monarchy? Which always goes bad?

    Direct vote? Which is impossible in a country this big?

    Anarchy?

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  4. Why did/does Al Quaida take credit for 9/11, and when Bin Laden was killed, they found more evidence of other attacks he wanted to make of that nature?

    Bin Laden didn't just wake up one day and see the news on 9/11 and be like, "Oh, they said I did it?AWESOME! I DID IT!"

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  5. If the White House was behind 9/11, then why did a plane almost hit the White House on 9/11? Would the gov't get a plane to blow up itself? Makes zero sense.

    Take a gander at this, please: http://www.debunking911.com/index.html

    I like what that website says at the bottom. It says that the real conspiracy theory is the gov't using 9/11 to make a foolish war in Iraq on false pretenses.

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  6. Easy read:

    http://www.debunking911.com/quick.htm

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  7. Did you see the video though? We are in concurence on the religious side of things, but we aren't exactly on the same page with 9/11. Did you SEE the video? At least watch that portion of it man. Then we can talk.

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